bugzilla-daemon | 5 Aug 2012 15:07
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[Bug 39053] New: New file uploaded should inherit category where upload was started

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

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             Bug #: 39053
           Summary: New file uploaded should inherit category where upload
                    was started
           Product: MediaWiki
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: Unprioritized
         Component: Uploading
        AssignedTo: wikibugs-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org
        ReportedBy: marcin.cieslak <at> gmail.com
                CC: Bryan.TongMinh <at> Gmail.com, mtraceur <at> member.fsf.org,
                    tfinc <at> wikimedia.org
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My usual workflow:  (Starting in the Category: namespace)  1) Search Commons
categories 2) Find the most descriptive category - sometimes there is the only
one,    sometimes one has to pick few ones. This case deales with the simplest 
  case of the only one. 3) Assume one finds the best matching category (or just
created one) 4) I start file upload 5) The current category should at least be
offered to be added to the    image. Or even by added by default.  Similar
workflow:  (Starting in the File: namespace)  1) I find an existing image that
matches my new images perfectly. 2) My new uploaded image should have initially
all the categories    the original image had.  Some of it might be easier to do
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bugzilla-daemon | 6 Aug 2012 18:52
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[Bug 39053] New file uploaded should inherit category where upload was started

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

--- Comment #1 from Mark Holmquist <mtraceur <at> member.fsf.org> 2012-08-06 16:52:01 UTC ---
I'm sort of cautious about this. I can see that it could be useful, but I think
it could also be detrimental in a lot of cases, where the user has to remove a
bunch of categories they never wanted.

Slightly different idea: Maybe we could instead keep the list around, and offer
to add the categories to the upload(s) with a single button press at the top of
the page. It wouldn't be totally without friction, but it would preserve the
status quo and offer you (and people like you) an awesome shortcut.

Just a thought, let me know what you think.

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bugzilla-daemon | 7 Aug 2012 21:54
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[Bug 39053] New file uploaded should inherit category where upload was started

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--- Comment #2 from Marcin Cieślak <marcin.cieslak <at> gmail.com> 2012-08-07 19:54:25 UTC ---
When I started to pay more attention to the workflow I noticed that it is more
and more useful to me. I uploaded a derivative work today (a vector silhouette
of  animal's head out of the foto) and I actually wanted to have the same
categories. 

I was thinking more about something along the lines of a separate "Upload here"
button (on a sidebar)? If you start with it, you are clearly uploading a
derivative or similar work.

Button to "kill them all" sounds like another JavaScript fragile gadget... not
sure

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bugzilla-daemon | 7 Aug 2012 21:56
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[Bug 39053] New file uploaded should inherit category where upload was started

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--- Comment #3 from Mark Holmquist <mtraceur <at> member.fsf.org> 2012-08-07 19:56:58 UTC ---
OK, now I'm seeing a much better solution arising. Pages in the NS_FILE
namespace could get an additional "upload" link that has something like
?keepcats=true in the query string, then we can check for that on the server
side and forward on a list of the categories to the client side.

OK, I like it. I'll keep this in mind.

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bugzilla-daemon | 7 Aug 2012 22:12
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[Bug 39053] New file uploaded should inherit category where upload was started

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--- Comment #4 from Marcin Cieślak <marcin.cieslak <at> gmail.com> 2012-08-07 20:12:36 UTC ---
Great!

maybe even we could easily link to it from the wikitext by saying on the
category page:

[[Special:UploadInto/{{PAGENAME}}|Add a picture to this category}}

or on NS_FILE page:

[[Special:UploadInto/{{PAGENAME}}|Upload a derivative work]]

Knowing our community it will be creatively used also for use cases like

You can [[Special:UploadInto/Category:Apples|upload images about apples in this
category]], but please go to [[Special:UploadInto:Category:Oranges|oranges
instead if necessary]].

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bugzilla-daemon | 7 Aug 2012 22:15
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[Bug 39053] New file uploaded should inherit category where upload was started

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--- Comment #5 from Mark Holmquist <mtraceur <at> member.fsf.org> 2012-08-07 20:15:05 UTC ---
Well, that would require even more special pages. I'm probably not going to do
that. You could use [[Special:UploadWizard?intocats=category]] or similar, but
it would require additional changes.

Really, it seems like your suggestions mostly could be solved by creating
campaigns and using them.

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bugzilla-daemon | 13 Mar 2013 12:34
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[Bug 39053] New file uploaded should inherit category where upload was started

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Andre Klapper <aklapper <at> wikimedia.org> changed:

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