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Siebrand Mazeland (WMF | 30 Apr 2012 08:56

Invitation for Localisation Development Demonstration 2012-05-01 15:00 UTC

Dear subscriber to mediawiki-i18n,

I would like to invite you to the Localisation Development
Demonstration on Tuesday 1 May 2012 at 15:00 UTC (other time zones:
08:00 PDT, 17:00 CEST, 20:30 IST). This meeting will take 40 minutes
at most. In this meeting the Localisation team will present its
progress made during sprint 14.

We hope you can attend, and please invite any other colleagues or
friends you think would appreciate being present!

This meeting will be held using WebEx. Please ensure that you log in a
few minutes before the meeting starts, so that you have time to
install any required plug-ins or software. Connection details can be
found below the signature.

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Siebrand Mazeland (WMF | 1 May 2012 17:37

Re: Invitation for Localisation Development Demonstration 2012-05-01 15:00 UTC

Dear all,

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
<smazeland <at> wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Dear subscriber to mediawiki-i18n,
>
> I would like to invite you to the Localisation Development
> Demonstration on Tuesday 1 May 2012 at 15:00 UTC (other time zones:
> 08:00 PDT, 17:00 CEST, 20:30 IST). This meeting will take 40 minutes
> at most. In this meeting the Localisation team will present its
> progress made during sprint 14.

This demonstration has just ended. Sorry you missed it! If you want to
have a look at the presentation, you can find it at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Localisation_team_Sprint_14_demo.pdf.

Cheers!

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Product Manager Localisation
Wikimedia Foundation

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Srikanth Lakshmanan | 2 May 2012 12:49

Re: Invitation for Localisation Development Demonstration 2012-05-01 15:00 UTC

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) <smazeland <at> wikimedia.org> wrote:

This demonstration has just ended. Sorry you missed it! If you want to
have a look at the presentation, you can find it at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Localisation_team_Sprint_14_demo.pdf.

Small note on the design prototype of ULS that just struck me.

The personal bar is currently used by communities, to add custom items. Moodbar also uses it. Would the ULS be using personal-bar, in which case it might be a good idea to check if the screen breaks (not just in English, but in languages which have lengthy translations of personal-bar[1]). Also, would ULS be preceeding the proposed(?) redesign of personal bar?

[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34681

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Siebrand Mazeland (WMF | 2 May 2012 14:27

Re: Invitation for Localisation Development Demonstration 2012-05-01 15:00 UTC

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry you missed it! If you want to
>> have a look at the presentation, you can find it at
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Localisation_team_Sprint_14_demo.pdf.
>
>
> Small note on the design prototype of ULS that just struck me.
>
> The personal bar is currently used by communities, to add custom items.
> Moodbar also uses it. Would the ULS be using personal-bar, in which case it
> might be a good idea to check if the screen breaks (not just in English, but
> in languages which have lengthy translations of personal-bar[1]). Also,
> would ULS be preceeding the proposed(?) redesign of personal bar?
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34681

Thanks for the feedback, Srikanth.

The current designs are not final by any means, so on exact position
and other properties I cannot reply with any certainty. Our goal as
Localisation team, is to provide anyone with a user experience that is
equal to that in the English language. This means that language, or
localisation, should not unnecessarily hinder user experience. The
flexibility of the MediaWiki software, with its gadgets, skins, and
other arbitrary visual elements pose a big challenge. I accept that
any and all eventualities cannot be foreseen for each and every
language. Inevitably, some things will pop up that we need to address
once the functionality has been developed.

I've asked the design group to expedite the creation of a design guide
for MediaWiki[1] a while ago in the Product Management team. The
current guide is mostly about shapes and colours of different possible
elements. Having guidelines for adding elements to the standard chrome
in a standard and prescribed way, may help reduce future issues. Until
then, we have to unfortunately mostly guess and hope that when and
where we add elements, they will not interfere (too much) with already
existing unknown elements.

I'm not sure if this fully satisfies as an answer to your question,
but at the moment it's the best I can provide. Maybe someone from the
design list[2] is able to provide additional input.

Cheers!

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Style_guide
[2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design

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