Andrea Zanni | 12 Mar 2012 16:03
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Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Dear Wikisourcerors,
I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like:
*Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we
got right, what we'd get better")
http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve_done,_what_we_could_do_better

Anyway, the idea is very simple:
1. We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
2. I'd like to speak about the things Wikisource is good at, and the
good framework we developed over the years (eg. the Proofread
extension)
Nonetheless, Wikisources suffers significant flaws, as a proper
metadata system (Dublin Core metadata, OAI-MPH complaint system),
which prevents us to collaborate with
other projects, as Europeana, or other digital libraries.

Now, I'm writing you to ask you if such a panel/workshop would be interesting,
and to ask you if it would be better, with your help, to create a
panel in which some of us describe the best aspects and features of
their Wikisource.

Let me know if any of you could be interested in this.

Aubrey

PS: Cristian Consonni, my fellow board member in Wikimedia Italy, has
proposed a presentation about a reCAPTCHA for Wikisource:
http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikicaptcha:_a_ReCAPTCHA-like_solution_for_Wikisource

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Amir E. Aharoni | 12 Mar 2012 18:00
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Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni <andrea.zanni <at> wikimedia.it>:
> Dear Wikisourcerors,
> I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like:
> *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we
> got right, what we'd get better")
> http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve_done,_what_we_could_do_better
>
> Anyway, the idea is very simple:
> 1. We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.

I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too:
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_hundred-year_old_websites

The idea of my talk is to show how Wikisource projects are useful in
real life in surprising ways. Admittedly, some projects mentioned
there are my own pet projects. My plan was that for the Malayalam
Wikisource part i would invite a guest speaker; from what i heard
about it, this project deserves a whole talk of its own, but if no-one
else steps up, it will a part of mine.

I'm *totally* open for ideas. For example, my talk can be a part of
series of talks or of a panel. Or i could add other projects that
anybody would suggest to my talk. Or i can do a short presentation as
part of another talk, if anybody believes that this would be more
efficient.

> Nonetheless, Wikisources suffers significant flaws, as a proper
> metadata system (Dublin Core metadata, OAI-MPH complaint system),
> which prevents us to collaborate with
> other projects, as Europeana, or other digital libraries.
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Pierre Yves Beaudouin | 12 Mar 2012 20:17
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Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@...>:
> 2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni <andrea.zanni@...>:
>> Dear Wikisourcerors,
>> I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like:
>> *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we
>> got right, what we'd get better")
>> http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve_done,_what_we_could_do_better
>>
>> Anyway, the idea is very simple:
>> 1. We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
>
> I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too:
> https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_hundred-year_old_websites
>

There is also a submission from Tpt and me about ebook, microformat
and semantic.

https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Getting_ebooks_on_Wikisource_:_a_first_step_to_a_Semantic_Digital_Library_%3F

Pyb

Andrea Zanni | 12 Mar 2012 20:55
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Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-)
I'm very happy about it.

I don't really know the procedure of selection of the talks,
but could it be possible to have/propose a "Wikisource" panel
on its own?

We would have a more technical part (Tpt and Pierre ebooks +
Cristian's wikicaptcha)
and a less technical one with me and Amir (I'm quite flexible on what
to talk about),
plus anyone who is willing to join.

Do you think it is a good idea?

Aubrey

2012/3/12 Pierre Yves Beaudouin <pierre.beaudouin@...>:
> 2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@...>:
>> 2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni <andrea.zanni@...>:
>>> Dear Wikisourcerors,
>>> I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like:
>>> *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we
>>> got right, what we'd get better")
>>> http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve_done,_what_we_could_do_better
>>>
>>> Anyway, the idea is very simple:
>>> 1. We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
>>
>> I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too:
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Amir E. Aharoni | 12 Mar 2012 21:18
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Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84 <at> gmail.com>:
> Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-)
> I'm very happy about it.
>
> I don't really know the procedure of selection of the talks,
> but could it be possible to have/propose a "Wikisource" panel
> on its own?

Just propose a panel. You can drop a line to the program team to make
sure that they understand what you want:
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organizing_team#Program_team

Link to the other Wikisource proposals from your own.

> We would have a more technical part (Tpt and Pierre ebooks +
> Cristian's wikicaptcha)
> and a less technical one with me and Amir (I'm quite flexible on what
> to talk about),

I will have one *slightly* technical part about WebFonts - i will
showcase how they are helping to make Wikisource a repository able of
hosting ancient (Biblical Hebrew) and very ancient (Cuneiform) texts.
I will NOT dive into scary things like HTML and JavaScript, though i
may mention words like "browser" and "dynamic loading" - but not any
more technical than that.

As for all the rest, i'll focus on Real Life.

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Andrea Zanni | 12 Mar 2012 21:26
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Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

I could do it, but just if everyone is willing to
and OK with the idea.
Maybe we have a better chance all together than alone, but, really,
I don't want to impose my view, I could actually drop my talk
and endorse yours.

Aubrey

2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni <at> mail.huji.ac.il>:
> 2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84 <at> gmail.com>:
>> Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-)
>> I'm very happy about it.
>>
>> I don't really know the procedure of selection of the talks,
>> but could it be possible to have/propose a "Wikisource" panel
>> on its own?
>
> Just propose a panel. You can drop a line to the program team to make
> sure that they understand what you want:
> https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organizing_team#Program_team
>
> Link to the other Wikisource proposals from your own.
>
>> We would have a more technical part (Tpt and Pierre ebooks +
>> Cristian's wikicaptcha)
>> and a less technical one with me and Amir (I'm quite flexible on what
>> to talk about),
>
> I will have one *slightly* technical part about WebFonts - i will
> showcase how they are helping to make Wikisource a repository able of
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Hélène Pedrosa-Masson | 12 Mar 2012 22:28
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Le 12 mars 12 à 20:55, Andrea Zanni a écrit :

> Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-)
> I'm very happy about it.
(...)

And so am I! I do hope I will go to Wikimania and that all these  
talks' proposals will take place. Aubrey, Pyb, Cristian and Amir,  
thank you for the try, anyway.

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