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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu | 4 Jun 2012 15:53

ready for tasks?

Ok who is ready for tasks to do??? :)

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FrewCen | 4 Jun 2012 18:06

Re: ready for tasks?

Whitch tasks?

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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu | 4 Jun 2012 23:53

Re: ready for tasks?

On 6/4/2012 12:06 PM, FrewCen wrote:
> Whitch tasks?

Change bat file to a C# appVSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other
user)Convert current DB from FB to SQL CompactInstaller as part of bat:
how do we get it to stop asking UAC every time?Dynamic load/unload
IL2CPU and other parts so we dont need to exit and run install.bat every
time for changes

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Matthijs ter Woord | 5 Jun 2012 08:41

Re: ready for tasks?

reformatted:

- Change bat file to a C# app

- VSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other user)

- Convert current DB from FB to SQL Compact

- Installer as part of bat:
- how do we get it to stop asking UAC every time?

- Dynamic load/unload
- IL2CPU and other parts so we dont need to exit and run install.bat every time for changes

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad-FeA/JENWDJfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Change bat file to a C# appVSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other
user)Convert current DB from FB to SQL CompactInstaller as part of bat:
how do we get it to stop asking UAC every time?Dynamic load/unload
IL2CPU and other parts so we dont need to exit and run install.bat every
time for changes

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Matthijs ter Woord | 5 Jun 2012 15:38

Re: ready for tasks?

Anyone? :)

We're aware that current progress on the project is low, but we're low on resources: if you have any time to spare, join this discussion and try to get this project rocking again..

If we could get us going again, 10 people spending like half an hour per week, we could already do quite a number of things..

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

reformatted:

- Change bat file to a C# app

- VSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other user)

- Convert current DB from FB to SQL Compact

- Installer as part of bat:

- how do we get it to stop asking UAC every time?

- Dynamic load/unload

- IL2CPU and other parts so we dont need to exit and run install.bat every time for changes

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad-FeA/JENWDJfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Change bat file to a C# appVSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other
user)Convert current DB from FB to SQL CompactInstaller as part of bat:
how do we get it to stop asking UAC every time?Dynamic load/unload
IL2CPU and other parts so we dont need to exit and run install.bat every
time for changes

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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu | 5 Jun 2012 15:42

Re: ready for tasks?

On 6/5/2012 9:38 AM, Matthijs ter Woord wrote:
> - VSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other user)

Id love if someone could do this.. and its not difficult....

Or I can do it and you guys can work on ASM stepping. :)

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Matthijs ter Woord | 5 Jun 2012 15:42

Re: ready for tasks?

Most of the tasks mentioned before are easy to do. It's not that the one-line-description is all we're going to support you: if you're interested in helping out, but are unsure what to do, just let us know and we'll get you started..

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad-FeA/JENWDJfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On 6/5/2012 9:38 AM, Matthijs ter Woord wrote:
> - VSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other user)

Id love if someone could do this.. and its not difficult....

Or I can do it and you guys can work on ASM stepping. :)

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Andrey Kurdumov | 5 Jun 2012 15:50

Re: ready for tasks?

Hi,

Could you give me a chance and possible I could took "Change bat file to a C# app" task.

Andrey Kudyumov

2012/6/5 Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

Most of the tasks mentioned before are easy to do. It's not that the one-line-description is all we're going to support you: if you're interested in helping out, but are unsure what to do, just let us know and we'll get you started..

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad-FeA/JENWDJfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On 6/5/2012 9:38 AM, Matthijs ter Woord wrote:
> - VSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other user)

Id love if someone could do this.. and its not difficult....

Or I can do it and you guys can work on ASM stepping. :)

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Matthijs ter Woord | 5 Jun 2012 15:59

Re: ready for tasks?

see separate thread, coming in couple of minutes..

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Andrey Kurdumov <kant2002-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Hi,

Could you give me a chance and possible I could took "Change bat file to a C# app" task.

Andrey Kudyumov

2012/6/5 Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

Most of the tasks mentioned before are easy to do. It's not that the one-line-description is all we're going to support you: if you're interested in helping out, but are unsure what to do, just let us know and we'll get you started..

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad-FeA/JENWDJfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On 6/5/2012 9:38 AM, Matthijs ter Woord wrote:
> - VSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other user)

Id love if someone could do this.. and its not difficult....

Or I can do it and you guys can work on ASM stepping. :)

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Trivalik Trivalik | 17 Jun 2012 14:52

Re: ready for tasks?

Is there any cause why we change from FB to compact SQL?

--- In Cosmos-Dev-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org, "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad <at> ...> wrote:
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> On 6/4/2012 12:06 PM, FrewCen wrote:
> > Whitch tasks?
>
> Change bat file to a C# appVSIX - Shutdown VMWare etc (other
> user)Convert current DB from FB to SQL CompactInstaller as part of bat:
> how do we get it to stop asking UAC every time?Dynamic load/unload
> IL2CPU and other parts so we dont need to exit and run install.bat every
> time for changes
>

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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu | 17 Jun 2012 16:54

Re: Re: ready for tasks?

On 6/17/2012 8:52 AM, Trivalik Trivalik wrote:
> Is there any cause why we change from FB to compact SQL?

So we can use EntityFramework.

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Matthijs ter Woord | 17 Jun 2012 18:20

Re: Re: ready for tasks?

Right now we use a custom and plain simple orm. It basically reads everything into memory. The debug data needs severe expansion and therefore we need to change to something more robust...

Op 17 jun. 2012 16:52 schreef "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad-FeA/JENWDJfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> het volgende:

On 6/17/2012 8:52 AM, Trivalik Trivalik wrote:
> Is there any cause why we change from FB to compact SQL?

So we can use EntityFramework.

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Trivalik Trivalik | 17 Jun 2012 20:15

Re: ready for tasks?

But for firebird is also a ADO.NET implementation with Entity Framework support. Is this such a bad impl. ?

--- In Cosmos-Dev-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org, Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord <at> ...> wrote:
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> Right now we use a custom and plain simple orm. It basically reads
> everything into memory. The debug data needs severe expansion and therefore
> we need to change to something more robust...
> Op 17 jun. 2012 16:52 schreef "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad <at> ...>
> het volgende:
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> > On 6/17/2012 8:52 AM, Trivalik Trivalik wrote:
> > > Is there any cause why we change from FB to compact SQL?
> >
> > So we can use EntityFramework.
> >
> >
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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu | 17 Jun 2012 21:30

Re: Re: ready for tasks?

On 6/17/2012 2:15 PM, Trivalik Trivalik wrote:
> But for firebird is also a ADO.NET implementation with Entity Framework
> support. Is this such a bad impl. ?

In the pasts the FB tools for VS have been behind (except the base .NET
provider). As far as DBs go I prefer FB in most cases (esp because of
its transaction model), but this is a small project and the toolset for
SQL is built in, better, updated, etc.

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SkAzZ | 11 Jul 2012 20:08

Re: Re: ready for tasks?

Surely the database engine is transparent if you just use the `DbProviderFactory(s)`..

There is a Database connection issue where the connection is not getting disposed properly if something goes wrong with the debug, so when one wants to debug again or rebuild it wont until you restart VS. (Because the connection is still open and the file is locked when it tries to delete it)

The transaction model is also just a `DbTranasction`, if this does not exist for a particular driver one would just need to write a managed solution so that if a DbCommand fails it generates the opposite SQL code for the previous Commands that did execute to undo the entire transaction.

The Batch execution (FirebirdSql.Data.Isql.FbBatchExecution) is not inherited from the normal System.Data.Common but it uses the DbCommand internally so one would translate it to not need the FireBird code and just use System.Data.Common code to make it usable by every engine/provider.

On 17 June 2012 20:30, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad-FeA/JENWDJfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On 6/17/2012 2:15 PM, Trivalik Trivalik wrote:
> But for firebird is also a ADO.NET implementation with Entity Framework
> support. Is this such a bad impl. ?

In the pasts the FB tools for VS have been behind (except the base .NET
provider). As far as DBs go I prefer FB in most cases (esp because of
its transaction model), but this is a small project and the toolset for
SQL is built in, better, updated, etc.

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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu | 11 Jul 2012 20:12

Re: Re: ready for tasks?

On 7/11/2012 2:08 PM, SkAzZ wrote:
> Surely the database engine is transparent if you just use the
> `DbProviderFactory(s)

Thats not the issue. The issue is deployment of the dlls, database name,
etc... as well as things like generators which are unique in form to
each DB.

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