Discussion about Cygwin's XFree implementation

Larry Hall (Cygwin X | 1 Aug 2008 19:36

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

Raul Acevedo wrote:
> I asked about this a few days ago and got no response so I thought I'd try
> again...
> 
> When in multi-window mode, all X windows iconify to the Windows taskbar
> using the same generic "X" icon.  Is there a way to get Windows to use the
> X11 icon that would normally be used if you were in root window mode with
> a window manager?  E.g. Emacs would iconify using its normal X11 icon,
> XTerm would iconify with its icon, etc.

I think the lack of an answer can be interpreted as a "no, not that we know
of."

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John J. McDonough, WB8RCR | 1 Aug 2008 20:15

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin X)" <reply-to-list-only-lh-x <at> cygwin.com>
To: <cygwin-xfree <at> cygwin.com>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

> I think the lack of an answer can be interpreted as a "no, not that we 
> know
> of."

Seems as if there is a way since sometimes, some of the apps DO use their 
X11 icons.  In fact, emacs is a case in point.   See:

http://www.mi-nts.org/sl/icons.jpg

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Larry Hall (Cygwin X | 1 Aug 2008 20:24

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

John J. McDonough, WB8RCR wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin X)" 
>> I think the lack of an answer can be interpreted as a "no, not that we 
>> know
>> of."
> 
> Seems as if there is a way since sometimes, some of the apps DO use 
> their X11 icons.  In fact, emacs is a case in point.   See:
> 
> http://www.mi-nts.org/sl/icons.jpg

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the intent of the
OP was to ask "Is there a configuration switch that one can throw to
see the X11 icons on the Windows frames?"  The answer to that is "no,
not that we know of."  If the question is instead "Can individual apps
be built and/or configured provide icons to be shown by the Windows
manager?", the answer is yes.  But these are vastly difference questions
with very different scopes and presumed levels of technical expertise.

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Raul Acevedo | 1 Aug 2008 22:01

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

> Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the intent of the
> OP was to ask "Is there a configuration switch that one can throw to
> see the X11 icons on the Windows frames?"  The answer to that is "no,
> not that we know of."  If the question is instead "Can individual apps
> be built and/or configured provide icons to be shown by the Windows
> manager?", the answer is yes.  But these are vastly difference questions
> with very different scopes and presumed levels of technical expertise.

You are right in assessing my original question, but what I really care
about is seeing different icons for different Windows.  So, a way to make
individual apps provide different icons to be shown by Windows would work
for me too.

Any guidance in this regard would be appreciated...  Thanks!

Raul

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Ken Brown | 2 Aug 2008 00:46

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Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

On 8/1/2008 4:01 PM, Raul Acevedo wrote:

> You are right in assessing my original question, but what I really care
> about is seeing different icons for different Windows.  So, a way to make
> individual apps provide different icons to be shown by Windows would work
> for me too.

I don't know any general answer, but for emacs I think you can get a 
special icon by putting

	emacs*bitmapIcon: on

in your .Xdefaults file.

Ken

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Raul Acevedo | 2 Aug 2008 00:48

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

> I don't know any general answer, but for emacs I think you can get a
> special icon by putting
>
> 	emacs*bitmapIcon: on
>
> in your .Xdefaults file.

Unfortunately that did not work.  :(

Raul

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Matt Wozniski | 2 Aug 2008 02:41

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Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Raul Acevedo wrote:
>> I don't know any general answer, but for emacs I think you can get a
>> special icon by putting
>>
>>       emacs*bitmapIcon: on
>>
>> in your .Xdefaults file.

If that is the solution, you would need either to do  "xrdb -merge
~/.Xdefaults" or to restart the x server in order to load the change.

That being said, vim ftw.

~Matt

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Christopher Faylor | 1 Aug 2008 22:16

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 01:01:59PM -0700, Raul Acevedo wrote:
>>Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the intent of the OP
>>was to ask "Is there a configuration switch that one can throw to see
>>the X11 icons on the Windows frames?" The answer to that is "no, not
>>that we know of." If the question is instead "Can individual apps be
>>built and/or configured provide icons to be shown by the Windows
>>manager?", the answer is yes.  But these are vastly difference
>>questions with very different scopes and presumed levels of technical
>>expertise.
>
>You are right in assessing my original question, but what I really care
>about is seeing different icons for different Windows.  So, a way to
>make individual apps provide different icons to be shown by Windows
>would work for me too.
>
>Any guidance in this regard would be appreciated...  Thanks!

I suspect that rewording the question is not going to get you any more
guidance than before.  Larry's assessment is still correct.

cgf

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Raul Acevedo | 1 Aug 2008 20:17

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

> Seems as if there is a way since sometimes, some of the apps DO use their
> X11 icons.  In fact, emacs is a case in point.   See:
>
> http://www.mi-nts.org/sl/icons.jpg

How did that happen?  When I start emacs, it uses the stock "X" icon.

Raul

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John J. McDonough, WB8RCR | 1 Aug 2008 20:35

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raul Acevedo" <raul <at> cantara.com>
To: <cygwin-xfree <at> cygwin.com>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

>> Seems as if there is a way since sometimes, some of the apps DO use their
>> X11 icons.  In fact, emacs is a case in point.   See:
>>
>> http://www.mi-nts.org/sl/icons.jpg
>
> How did that happen?  When I start emacs, it uses the stock "X" icon.

I hate to sound ignorant, but that is just "how it works" for me.  I sort of 
agree with Larry Hall's comment that there isn't some configuration switch. 
If an app has no icon associated with it then how is Windows supposed to 
know what icon to display.  I don't see those icons for all apps, obviously, 
and I don't know wy some work and some don't.

I don't think it's always been that way.  It seems to me that I started 
noticing those icons a year or so ago, before that there was another icon, 
I'm not so sure it was the X, on all windows.  But somewhere along the line 
some update caused them to appear.

I should also mention that most (I'm not 100% convinced it is all, but it 
might be) of the apps that DO display icons are running on an actual Linux 
box, and Cygwin is simply the X-server.  So it sounds as if perhaps most of 
the apps in the Cygwin distro don't have icon resources built in.  But 
obviously, the Cygwin X-server is capable of passing those icon images to

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Raul Acevedo | 1 Aug 2008 20:00

Re: Window icons in multi-window mode

> I think the lack of an answer can be interpreted as a "no, not that we
> know of."

Fair enough.  :)  Good to hear it explicitly though.  Thanks,

Raul

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