Nikolai Saoukh | 31 Jul 12:37

The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

I see no other java sources.

Noah Evans | 1 Aug 22:28

Re: The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

j2d and the other java stuff is still hanging around on the vitanuova
servers I think. But they're not GPL'ed IIRC so you'll have to get
them from the vitanuova inferno page.

Noah

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Nikolai Saoukh
<nms+inferno@...> wrote:
> I see no other java sources.
>

Charles Forsyth | 1 Aug 22:53

Re: The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

the licence for Inferno's j2d and related components isn't a problem,
but the surrounding java class support relies on Java source with
Sun copyright

 * This software is the confidential and proprietary information of Sun
 * Microsystems, Inc. ("Confidential Information").  You shall not
 * disclose such Confidential Information and shall use it only in
 * accordance with the terms of the license agreement you entered into
 * with Sun.

so it hasn't been distributed, but it is there
From: Noah Evans <noah.evans@...>
Subject: Re: [inferno-list] The fate of mkfiles/mkjava
Date: 2008-08-01 20:28:46 GMT
j2d and the other java stuff is still hanging around on the vitanuova
servers I think. But they're not GPL'ed IIRC so you'll have to get
them from the vitanuova inferno page.

Noah

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Nikolai Saoukh
<nms+inferno@...> wrote:
> I see no other java sources.
>
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Charles Forsyth | 1 Aug 23:01

Re: The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

> but the surrounding java class support relies on Java source with
> Sun copyright

i meant to add: it wouldn't surprise me if the same code or reasonable replacements
are available under less restricted licence, but how and who to do the search and comparison?
not to mention getting it working.

Uriel | 5 Aug 01:52

Re: The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

Just put the non-sun code out somewhere, maybe somebody will do the
work, maybe not, without the non-sun code being publicly available it
is more unlikely that anyone will do it... (there was some crazy
person that will remain nameless that wanted java in plan9, maybe this
could be a path that would work for him, who knows).

uriel

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Charles Forsyth <forsyth@...> wrote:
>> but the surrounding java class support relies on Java source with
>> Sun copyright
>
> i meant to add: it wouldn't surprise me if the same code or reasonable replacements
> are available under less restricted licence, but how and who to do the search and comparison?
> not to mention getting it working.
>
>

Benjamin Huntsman | 15 Aug 00:17

RE: The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

>Just put the non-sun code out somewhere, maybe somebody will do the
>work, maybe not, without the non-sun code being publicly available it
>is more unlikely that anyone will do it...

I second that.  If it got released minus the Sun bits, if someone wished, they ought to be able to fill in the
gaps using the OpenJDK code...

-Ben
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Benjamin Huntsman | 1 Aug 22:50

RE: The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

>...Java source with Sun copyright...

Might the fact that Sun's Java is now open source allow the components in question to see the light of day again?
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Charles Forsyth | 1 Aug 23:47

RE: The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

it's easy enough to make j2d and some other things available.
noah evans suggested that they were on the vita nuova website
but i don't think they were made public (although i did
private distributions out of our web site for a few people).
it's not a big effort to do that again for a public distribution
but is it really worthwhile?
From: Benjamin Huntsman <BHuntsman@...>
Subject: RE: [inferno-list] The fate of mkfiles/mkjava
Date: 2008-08-01 20:50:23 GMT
>...Java source with Sun copyright...

Might the fact that Sun's Java is now open source allow the components in question to see the light of day again?
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Nikolai Saoukh | 2 Aug 12:10

Re: The fate of mkfiles/mkjava

> it's easy enough to make j2d and some other things available.
> noah evans suggested that they were on the vita nuova website
> but i don't think they were made public (although i did
> private distributions out of our web site for a few people).
> it's not a big effort to do that again for a public distribution
> but is it really worthwhile?

Bait for java addicts? ;-)


Gmane