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Thomas Mueller | 2 Sep 2011 10:09

Re: USB3?

I am now on a new Intel Sandy Bridge system, have a Western Digital 3 TB My Book Essential USB 3.0 hard drive,
and NetBSD can't see it at all.

FreeBSD 9.0 (BETA-1) and the newer releases of the System Rescue CD (http://sysresccd.org/), booting the
default Linux 64-bit kernel, can read and write this disk.

NetBSD can read and write most USB sticks including most Kingston Data Travelers, but there is one lot of
Kingston Data Traveler that gives generic HBA error in NetBSD, 32-bit or 64-bit, version 4.0.1,
5.1_STABLE, and HEAD: a model, Data Traveler 112, now discontinued, made specifically for sale through
Office Depot. 

I bought four of these, 2 GB, on sale, and they work with FreeBSD, Linux, even FreeDOS (to a limited extent)
and OpenIndiana.  Strange!

I guess it would be rather difficult for NetBSD people to fix this bug, since the model in question is discontinued.

However, FreeDOS and OpenIndiana can't read any part of my hard drive (internal or external, both Western
Digital 3 TB), seem completely helpless with anything > 2 TB or with GPT partitioning scheme.

Tom
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Christos Zoulas | 2 Sep 2011 11:58

Re: USB3?

In article <20110902091806.AE4C014A4DA <at> mail.netbsd.org>,
Thomas Mueller <mueller6724 <at> bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I am now on a new Intel Sandy Bridge system, have a Western Digital 3 TB
>My Book Essential USB 3.0 hard drive, and NetBSD can't see it at all.
>
>FreeBSD 9.0 (BETA-1) and the newer releases of the System Rescue CD
>(http://sysresccd.org/), booting the default Linux 64-bit kernel, can
>read and write this disk.
>
>NetBSD can read and write most USB sticks including most Kingston Data
>Travelers, but there is one lot of Kingston Data Traveler that gives
>generic HBA error in NetBSD, 32-bit or 64-bit, version 4.0.1,
>5.1_STABLE, and HEAD: a model, Data Traveler 112, now discontinued, made
>specifically for sale through Office Depot. 
>
>I bought four of these, 2 GB, on sale, and they work with FreeBSD,
>Linux, even FreeDOS (to a limited extent) and OpenIndiana.  Strange!
>
>I guess it would be rather difficult for NetBSD people to fix this bug,
>since the model in question is discontinued.
>
>However, FreeDOS and OpenIndiana can't read any part of my hard drive
>(internal or external, both Western Digital 3 TB), seem completely
>helpless with anything > 2 TB or with GPT partitioning scheme.

There are not messages produced by the kernel for those devices?

christos
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Alan Barrett | 2 Sep 2011 12:37
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Re: USB3?

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> I am now on a new Intel Sandy Bridge system, have a Western 
> Digital 3 TB My Book Essential USB 3.0 hard drive, and NetBSD 
> can't see it at all.

Try plugging the drive into a USB2 port.  It will be slow, but 
it's more likely to work.

--apb (Alan Barrett)
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Aleksej Saushev | 3 Sep 2011 01:27
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Re: USB3?

"Thomas Mueller" <mueller6724 <at> bellsouth.net> writes:

> I am now on a new Intel Sandy Bridge system, have a Western Digital 3 TB My Book Essential USB 3.0 hard drive,
and NetBSD can't see it at all.
>
> FreeBSD 9.0 (BETA-1) and the newer releases of the System Rescue CD (http://sysresccd.org/), booting
the default Linux 64-bit kernel, can read and write this disk.
>
> NetBSD can read and write most USB sticks including most Kingston Data Travelers, but there is one lot of
Kingston Data Traveler that gives generic HBA error in NetBSD, 32-bit or 64-bit, version 4.0.1,
5.1_STABLE, and HEAD: a model, Data Traveler 112, now discontinued, made specifically for sale through
Office Depot. 

There is known problem with Kingston Data Travellers, it doesn't involve USB 3.

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Iain Hibbert | 18 Sep 2011 20:53

Kingston Data Traveler (was Re: USB3?)

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, Thomas Mueller wrote:

> NetBSD can read and write most USB sticks including most Kingston Data
> Travelers, but there is one lot of Kingston Data Traveler that gives
> generic HBA error in NetBSD, 32-bit or 64-bit, version 4.0.1,
> 5.1_STABLE, and HEAD: a model, Data Traveler 112, now discontinued, made
> specifically for sale through Office Depot.
>
> I bought four of these, 2 GB, on sale, and they work with FreeBSD,
> Linux, even FreeDOS (to a limited extent) and OpenIndiana.  Strange!
>
> I guess it would be rather difficult for NetBSD people to fix this bug,
> since the model in question is discontinued.

I have a pair of Kingston Data Traveler 4Gb sticks which appear identical,
except that one of them does not work with NetBSD and the other works
fine. I guess this is the "known problem" which was alluded to in this
thread (I don't see a PR about it), how can I diagnose this?

The one that does not work:

 umass0 at uhub4 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0
 umass0: Kingston DataTraveler G2, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
 umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
 scsibus0 at umass0: 2 targets, 1 lun per target
 sd0 at scsibus0 target 0 lun 0: <Kingston, DataTraveler G2, 1.00> disk removable
 sd0: fabricating a geometry
 sd0: 3817 MB, 3817 cyl, 64 head, 32 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 7818184 sectors
 sd0(umass0:0:0:0): generic HBA error
 sd0: unable to open device, error = 5
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Thomas Mueller | 19 Sep 2011 09:37

Re: Kingston Data Traveler

From Iain Hibbert <plunky <at> rya-online.net>:

> I have a pair of Kingston Data Traveler 4Gb sticks which appear identical,
> except that one of them does not work with NetBSD and the other works
> fine. I guess this is the "known problem" which was alluded to in this
> thread (I don't see a PR about it), how can I diagnose this?

Do you have a model number showing for the offending Kingston Data Travelers?

My NetBSD-incapable Kingston Data Travelers have printed:

DataTraveler
        112

while the NetBSD-capable ones don't have such a number.

I got the same "generic HBA error" that you got with the NetBSD-incapable ones.

I didn't save the other messages, and don't remember the details; am in FreeBSD 9.0_BETA2 amd64 now.

But the NetBSD-4.0.1-capable 4GB Kingston Data Traveler would be older than the NetBSD-incapable ones.

Tom
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Alan Barrett | 19 Sep 2011 13:04
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Re: Kingston Data Traveler

On Mon, 19 Sep 2011, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>My NetBSD-incapable Kingston Data Travelers have printed:
>DataTraveler
>        112
>while the NetBSD-capable ones don't have such a number.

What are the vendor and product codes displkayed by "usbdevs -v"?

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Rhialto | 19 Sep 2011 10:29
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Re: Kingston Data Traveler (was Re: USB3?)

On Sun 18 Sep 2011 at 19:53:36 +0100, Iain Hibbert wrote:
> I have a pair of Kingston Data Traveler 4Gb sticks which appear identical,

There is a small difference:

>  umass0: Kingston DataTraveler G2, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
>  umass0: Kingston DataTraveler G2, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2

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