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Ben Harris | 9 Feb 2005 11:49
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Re: boot26 on R260

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Peter Teichmann wrote:

>> Nothing. To get rid of the page XXX not free messages you'll have to
>> *unplug any modules you don't really need, maybe *rmtidy helps too ( on
>> my A5000 with 8MB I never got there )
>> Did you try BBBB?
>
> No, but I got a clue from reading a BBBB documentation. I got to supervisor
> mode by pressing shift and keypad-*, and switched to a 256 colour mode before
> starting boot26. That helped. Unfortunately I get now infinite messages with
> the 2.0 installation kernel:
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> Stray IRQ, status=0xf1f1, spl=0, mask=0x0

Odd.  I must actually get a working acorn26 machine again so I can test 
this...

> The 1.62 installation kernel does not show these messages, but seems not to
> recognise the Ether1 card. Utility menu/Configure network does not let me
> configure a network card, it does not find one.
>
> During kernel startup, it says:
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> podule <0000>:<0000> at podulebus0 slot 0 not configured
>
> This is the Ether1. I thought it is supported?

The Ether1 is supported in general, but your one is apparently identifying 
itself as a TUBE host interface.  This suggests that its PROM is dead. 
Does it work under RISC OS?
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Peter Teichmann | 9 Feb 2005 20:44
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Re: boot26 on R260

Am Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2005 11:49 schrieb Ben Harris:
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Peter Teichmann wrote:
> > The 1.62 installation kernel does not show these messages, but seems not
> > to recognise the Ether1 card. Utility menu/Configure network does not let
> > me configure a network card, it does not find one.
> >
> > During kernel startup, it says:
> >
> > podule <0000>:<0000> at podulebus0 slot 0 not configured
> >
> > This is the Ether1. I thought it is supported?
>
> The Ether1 is supported in general, but your one is apparently identifying
> itself as a TUBE host interface.  This suggests that its PROM is dead.
> Does it work under RISC OS?

I thought the Ether1 does not have a PROM? I read somewhere that it can not be 
idetified by executing "podules" in RISC OS. I am not completely sure if it 
works under RISC OS. "e1info" discoveres that it is in slot 0 and has a 
hardware address of 00:00:a4:00:04:ec. "ifconfig -a" shows some stuff about 
the et0 interface. I can ping the address associated to the et0, but not 
addresses outside which is strange. It is connected to a twisted pair network 
via a transceiver at the AUI port.

Peter Teichmann
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Ben Harris | 9 Feb 2005 22:05
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Re: boot26 on R260

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Peter Teichmann wrote:

> I thought the Ether1 does not have a PROM?

It does, but it's very small and only contains the extended expansion card 
ID, the Ethernet address and a few other bits.  In particular, it doesn't 
have a chunk directory, so there's no podule description (for *Podules) or 
driver module.

> I am not completely sure if it
> works under RISC OS. "e1info" discoveres that it is in slot 0 and has a
> hardware address of 00:00:a4:00:04:ec.

That should be enough for NetBSD's ei(4) to at least attach to it.  I'm 
not sure there's much I can do to help without reviving my building and 
testing infrastructure here, which isn't going to happen for at least a 
week or two.

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Peter Teichmann | 9 Feb 2005 23:51
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Re: boot26 on R260

Am Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2005 22:05 schrieb Ben Harris:
> > I am not completely sure if it
> > works under RISC OS. "e1info" discoveres that it is in slot 0 and has a
> > hardware address of 00:00:a4:00:04:ec.
>
> That should be enough for NetBSD's ei(4) to at least attach to it.  I'm
> not sure there's much I can do to help without reviving my building and
> testing infrastructure here, which isn't going to happen for at least a
> week or two.

Extremely strange, but suddenly the NetBSD 1.6.2 installation kernel 
discoveres the Ether1. I changed nothing, and do not know what the difference 
is. But after configuring the interface it says "no carrier", and the card 
does not work properly in RISC OS either. I am using the AUI port with a 
10base2 transceiver. If I ping from elsewhere to the R260, I can see the 
"receive" LED on the transceiver blink (ok that does not say anything about 
that the R260's IP is known in the network). If I ping from the R260 to 
elsewhere, the "transmit" LED does not blink. Can it be that I need to tell 
the Ether1 to use the AUI port?

Peter
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Ben Harris | 10 Feb 2005 12:07
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Re: boot26 on R260

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Peter Teichmann wrote:

> Extremely strange, but suddenly the NetBSD 1.6.2 installation kernel
> discoveres the Ether1. I changed nothing, and do not know what the difference
> is. But after configuring the interface it says "no carrier", and the card
> does not work properly in RISC OS either. I am using the AUI port with a
> 10base2 transceiver. If I ping from elsewhere to the R260, I can see the
> "receive" LED on the transceiver blink (ok that does not say anything about
> that the R260's IP is known in the network). If I ping from the R260 to
> elsewhere, the "transmit" LED does not blink. Can it be that I need to tell
> the Ether1 to use the AUI port?

If you haven't done so then yes, you do.  According to ei(4), you want to 
change LK3--LK8 and LK10 on the Ether1.  The instructions that come with 
the Ether1 give more details.

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Richard Earnshaw | 10 Feb 2005 23:35
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Re: nfsroot install

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:55:38 +0100, Peter Teichmann wrote:
> Ok, after changing the jumpers the network card works, and I can ping other 
> computers in the network and vice versa. But as the Acorn SCSI card is not 
> supported, I guess my only option is a nfsroot install.

I did once get the Acorn SCSI card working (there's a PR with a patch in 
it somewhere).  But since it's never been updated in a long time it's 
probably rather bit-rotten by now.  Sadly, I'm no longer using SCSI on 
that machine, so I've no idea what needs doing to bring it back to life.

R.
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Peter Teichmann | 10 Feb 2005 22:55
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nfsroot install

Ok, after changing the jumpers the network card works, and I can ping other 
computers in the network and vice versa. But as the Acorn SCSI card is not 
supported, I guess my only option is a nfsroot install.

Is that possible? How can it be done?

Can I use a standard installation kernel to install to a nfsroot? But how can 
I tell sysinst to install to a (possibly already mounted) nfsroot? Or can I 
just explode all the sets to the nfsroot?

Once I have installed it, how can I boot the kernel so that it uses the 
nfsroot? How do I pass arguments to boot26? Is there a boot26 documentation 
somewhere?

If nfsroot is not possible, which harddisk interface can be recommended to get 
for use with NetBSD on the R260?

Thank you for your help!
Peter Teichmann
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Ben Harris | 10 Feb 2005 23:15
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Re: nfsroot install

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Peter Teichmann wrote:

> Can I use a standard installation kernel to install to a nfsroot? But how can
> I tell sysinst to install to a (possibly already mounted) nfsroot? Or can I
> just explode all the sets to the nfsroot?

The latter is how I've always done it.  It usually seems to work.

> Once I have installed it, how can I boot the kernel so that it uses the
> nfsroot? How do I pass arguments to boot26? Is there a boot26 documentation
> somewhere?

The kernel will probably prompt for a root device if it hasn't got one 
compiled in.  If you want to nail down the root device, you'll probably 
need to compile your own kernel.  boot26 is documented in its manual page; 
see <http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?boot26+.acorn26+NetBSD-1.6.2>.

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