NetBSD on Apple's m68k based Macintosh machines (NetBSD/mac68k)

Hauke Fath | 28 Sep 2011 20:53

Re: any current projects?

At 10:58 Uhr -0500 27.9.2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote:
>Curious if anyone is currently working on anything specific to mac68k.  In
>the past few years I recall discussion/progress on SCSI, IDE, and
>framebuffer issues.  (Yeah, this is my quasi-annual traffic-generator
>posting. :)

I have meant to add timekeeper support to cpi(4) for a while, putting its
32 bit timer/counter to use with half an eye to meaningful benchmarking.
Don't know if I can come up with a day or three of uninterrupted time this
year, though, to pick up the loose threads...

>Also, going back to a discussion from May, would it be possible to have
>mac68k kernels default to white-on-black console instead of the inverse?

No problem with the option, but I'd just hate that default, being a
Macintosh user for 20+ years and all...

While you are mentioning it - mac68k should move to wscons fb support one
of these days.

	hauke

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Mouse | 28 Sep 2011 21:12

Re: any current projects?

>> [...] would it be possible to have mac68k kernels default to
>> white-on-black console instead of the inverse?
> No problem with the option, but I'd just hate that default, being a
> Macintosh user for 20+ years and all...

And I'm sure lots of NetBSD people hate black-on-white, being NetBSD
users for however long.

Clash of cultures: are NetBSD/mac68k users more likely to be Mac users
putting a toe into the NetBSD waters, or NetBSD users picking up Macs?
Seems to me that should control the default.

(I have no horse in this race.  I will not tolerate reverse video any
longer than necessary to build a kernel with it fixed, but I have no
problem with a port defaulting to it - I build my own kernels anyway.
As for the question above, I'm not really competent to say; if I had to
guess I'd guess the former is more likely.)

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Hauke Fath | 29 Sep 2011 20:49

Re: any current projects?

At 15:12 Uhr -0400 28.9.2011, Mouse wrote:
>>> [...] would it be possible to have mac68k kernels default to
>>> white-on-black console instead of the inverse?
>> No problem with the option, but I'd just hate that default, being a
>> Macintosh user for 20+ years and all...
>
>And I'm sure lots of NetBSD people hate black-on-white, being NetBSD
>users for however long. [...]

Ah, nothing like the smell of fresh paint, eh?  ;o)

I wondered for a moment why the black-on-white-console never really was
contested as long as I have been on this list and its predecessor (16
years?) - and then I remembered: You are not supposed to use the mac68k
consolem much, anyway. It is slow, non-preemtable (I guess), and for
anything more fancy that is not X11, there is misc/dt which you can set up
to your heart's content. I am sure the FAQ knows about it.

HTH,
	hauke

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David Brownlee | 30 Sep 2011 10:36

Re: any current projects?

On 29 September 2011 19:49, Hauke Fath <hauke <at> espresso.rhein-neckar.de> wrote:

> I wondered for a moment why the black-on-white-console never really was
> contested as long as I have been on this list and its predecessor (16
> years?) - and then I remembered: You are not supposed to use the mac68k
> consolem much, anyway. It is slow, non-preemtable (I guess), and for
> anything more fancy that is not X11, there is misc/dt which you can set up
> to your heart's content. I am sure the FAQ knows about it.

There have been quite a few changes to wsdisplay since it was first
written - I suspect there may be some speed gains to made by checking
that macfb is taking full advantage of wsdisplay...