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Mike Parson | 2 Jul 2005 20:21
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Re: SPARCbook and PCMCIA

On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 01:19:05PM -0400, Michael wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> wi0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>mtu
>> 1500
>> 	ssid myssid
>> 	powersave off
>> 	address: 00:20:a5:00:00:08
>> 	media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (DS2)
>> 	status: no network
>> 	inet 192.168.15.45 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.15.255
>
> Looks good.
> When it hooks up with an AP it should add something like this::
>         bssid 00:0c:41:51:2b:f6 chan 1
>
>
>> I've never played with wireless under *nix before, so the above is as
>> close as I've gotten.  The "status: no network" tells me I'm still
>> missing something. (the ssid *is* set to my net's ssid in the real
>> output).
>
> Hmm, do you use WEP? If you do you need to tell wi which key to use.
> This may not work though - some people reported problems with WEP. ( I
> don't use it - my AP filters solely by MAC address ) This would be
> ifconfig wi0 nwkey "xxxxx"

D'OH!

I use MAC filtering too.  I so rarely have new clients, I tend to forget
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Michael | 2 Jul 2005 21:05
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Re: SPARCbook and PCMCIA

Hello,

> D'OH!
> 
> I use MAC filtering too.  I so rarely have new clients, I tend to
> forget about that, I was just figuring it was something I was doing
> wrong on the NetBSD side of things. *grin*

Heh, luckily my wife used this card in her laptop before so I didn't run
into this ;)

> Trying again (using this morning's kernel).... and it works! 
> 
> ep0 now works too!

Ok, so the PCMCIA stuff apparently works :)

> 3 interfaces on my Sparcbook! 

Too bad only one is DMA-driven ;)
Hmm, I wonder if there are PCMCIA USB cards - those I've seen so far
were all CardBus which won't fit into the SPARCbook's slots ( besides
being sort of PCI in drag which wouldn't work anyway )

> Using the 2.0 userland (might be time to upgrade that):

There's a pretty recent snapshot in
ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/macallan/sparc/sets/
compiled with -mcpu=v8 and so on.
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Martin Husemann | 3 Jul 2005 14:46
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Re: SPARCbook and PCMCIA

On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 03:05:23PM -0400, Michael wrote:
> Hmm, I wonder if there are PCMCIA USB cards - those I've seen so far
> were all CardBus which won't fit into the SPARCbook's slots ( besides
> being sort of PCI in drag which wouldn't work anyway )

Yeah, I've been looking for pcmcia <-> usb stuff too, but only found
cardbus so far. If anyone has pointers...

Martin
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Peter Seebach | 3 Jul 2005 22:30

Re: SPARCbook and PCMCIA

In message <20050703124632.GA4147 <at> drowsy.duskware.de>, Martin Husemann writes:
>On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 03:05:23PM -0400, Michael wrote:
>> Hmm, I wonder if there are PCMCIA USB cards - those I've seen so far
>> were all CardBus which won't fit into the SPARCbook's slots ( besides
>> being sort of PCI in drag which wouldn't work anyway )
>
>Yeah, I've been looking for pcmcia <-> usb stuff too, but only found
>cardbus so far. If anyone has pointers...

I don't think there are any.  USB depends on something sorta like PCI,
although someone somehow managed to do an ISA adapter, so it might be
technically possible... But there's not much demand.

-s
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Nathan J. Williams | 3 Jul 2005 21:09

Re: SPARCbook and PCMCIA

Martin Husemann <martin <at> duskware.de> writes:

> On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 03:05:23PM -0400, Michael wrote:
> > Hmm, I wonder if there are PCMCIA USB cards - those I've seen so far
> > were all CardBus which won't fit into the SPARCbook's slots ( besides
> > being sort of PCI in drag which wouldn't work anyway )
> 
> Yeah, I've been looking for pcmcia <-> usb stuff too, but only found
> cardbus so far. If anyone has pointers...

You're going to be looking for a while. PCMCIA isn't so good with the
DMA (older revisions of the PCMCIA spec didn't specify any DMA, so
most PCMCIA bridges don't support it). Our PCMCIA code doesn't support
what little DMA there is in the PCMCIA world.

However, all respectable USB controllers depend heavily on DMA, so
there's a pretty fundamental problem with putting them on PCMCIA.  You
*might* find something based on the ScanLogic SL811 chip (slhci) or
Phillips ISP116x chips, but either way you'd have a lot of
driver-debugging or driver-writing in front of you.

        - Nathan
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