24 Aug 2012 13:37
Re: [Sansevierias] oh those names again.
<Bonsaigai37 <at> aol.com>
2012-08-24 11:37:58 GMT
2012-08-24 11:37:58 GMT
From what I can tell, he studied and did quite a bit of revision of Dracaena in Africa.
Reduced to Aloe! Good Lord, what next?
Michael
Interlaken NY Zone6
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From: Norma - Crasulady2 <crasulady2 <at> dslextreme.com>
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Who is J.J. Boss I am just a beginner, and
don't know that name where can this information be found. and Gasteria,
and Haworthia have been reduced to Aloe. Because the Dutch said so.
Ask Bruce Bayer about this please.
----- Original Message -----From: Bonsaigai37 <at> aol.comSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:57 AMSubject: Re: [Sansevierias] oh those names again.Just found this:It has found evidence that the apparent close relationship between Sansevieria and Dracaenais based on overall morphology but has not taken into consideration palynology andontogenetic studies. It is interesting that in both the morphological and molecular analysesof Rudall et al. (2000), Dracaena and Sansevieria come out as separate entities. This coupled with the distinctions pointed outby Nakai (1936), Ojeda et al. (1984) and by Ojeda & Ludlow-Wiechers, 1995) indicatethat the two genera are distinct and should be maintained as such.That said, J.J Bos, 1998, reduced Sansevieria to Dracaena. However as the above article by Rudall, et. al. 2000, notes it should remain separate entities. OY! Can't they make up their minds!?!?! Technically, Rudall, as the later author, should be considered "correct," if that's the word we want to use.No arguments.Remember - treats not threats.MichaelInterlaken NY Zone 6-----Original Message-----
From: Helli <sansevieria <at> matucana.de>
To: Sansevierias <Sansevierias <at> yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sansevierias] Some new plants.
> (Where did you see Sansevieria listed as Dracaena?)
Does that matter? I suspect it is not popular, like in the famous poem
of Christian Morgenstern (free quote):
"for, they reasoned pointedly,
that which must not, can not be."
(http://www.alb-neckar-schwarzwald.de/morgenstern/morgenstern_poems.html)
Helli
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