Bob Lee | 26 Dec 2009 17:57

End of year thoughts about joe

First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 
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ryancomperatore | 26 Dec 2009 17:59
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Dear friend:
What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test that.
Their Web address: www.sonyacn.com
Regards!

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ryancomperatore | 26 Dec 2009 18:01
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Dear friend:
What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test that.
Their Web address: www.sonyacn.com
Regards!

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http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
D.A. Gutierrez | 26 Dec 2009 18:12
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"rightful spot back on the airways."

Wait a second. .  Joe worked at an airline?

Just kidding, I think you meant "airwaves"

Anyway, my recommendation for a show:
- Love Prisoner - just awesome.

- The second half of Mountain Rain - where Joe assembles a ragtag group to make an ascent up K2 with absolutely no preparation - hilarious and, I admit - if I ever get ridiculously rich, it's the first thing I'll do.

- Predator - Larry Block's monologue takes up about the first 32 minutes and is just incredible to listen to; and the second half, where Joe has several mini monologues and the music takes a more prominent role is an engrossing treatise on power. (the dynamic of power, not electrical wiring!)

Dave

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com> wrote:
First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 

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ryancomperatore | 26 Dec 2009 18:14
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Dear friend:
What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test that.
Their Web address: www.sonyacn.com
Regards!

_______________________________________________
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http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
Bob Lee | 27 Dec 2009 18:42

Re: End of year thoughts about joe

Love Prisoner 
Thanks for the suggestion I love it.  Classic.  
 
p.s.
There are some seasonal selections Joe updated recently over on the JF site.
 
 
Bob Lee 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

"rightful spot back on the airways."

Wait a second. .  Joe worked at an airline?

Just kidding, I think you meant "airwaves"

Anyway, my recommendation for a show:
- Love Prisoner - just awesome.

- The second half of Mountain Rain - where Joe assembles a ragtag group to make an ascent up K2 with absolutely no preparation - hilarious and, I admit - if I ever get ridiculously rich, it's the first thing I'll do.

- Predator - Larry Block's monologue takes up about the first 32 minutes and is just incredible to listen to; and the second half, where Joe has several mini monologues and the music takes a more prominent role is an engrossing treatise on power. (the dynamic of power, not electrical wiring!)

Dave

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com> wrote:
First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 

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Joe Frank | 27 Dec 2009 20:12
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Re: End of year thoughts about joe

By the way ---
Look for the new web site with selections on every page - coming in early Jan.

Suggestions for excerpts are welcome. I'm printing out your suggestions - anything ranging from 3 min to 20 minutes. They will be on demand, no logging in needed. (just let me know original show & describe story a bit)

thanks.

Bob Lee wrote:
Love Prisoner 
Thanks for the suggestion I love it.  Classic.  
 
p.s.
There are some seasonal selections Joe updated recently over on the JF site.
 
 
Bob Lee 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

"rightful spot back on the airways."

Wait a second. .  Joe worked at an airline?

Just kidding, I think you meant "airwaves"

Anyway, my recommendation for a show:
- Love Prisoner - just awesome.

- The second half of Mountain Rain - where Joe assembles a ragtag group to make an ascent up K2 with absolutely no preparation - hilarious and, I admit - if I ever get ridiculously rich, it's the first thing I'll do.

- Predator - Larry Block's monologue takes up about the first 32 minutes and is just incredible to listen to; and the second half, where Joe has several mini monologues and the music takes a more prominent role is an engrossing treatise on power. (the dynamic of power, not electrical wiring!)

Dave

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com> wrote:
First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 

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http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list

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mandy willingham | 29 Dec 2009 01:59
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I think offering a selection from the show "Mercy" would be very appropriate for this time of year. It's one of my favorites. The main character is a failing writer and adulterer who travels to the northern California coast to celebrate New Year's with his blindly devoted wife. The accompanying music is lovely and hypnotic. And the story is a brilliant and achingly human mix of hilarious and sad laments.

Thanks so much to Joe for sharing his craft with the world. I had the fortune to stumble on "Work in Progress" when I was 13, and I've been a fan ever since.

Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:12:28 -0800
From: Joe <at> joefrank.com
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

By the way ---
Look for the new web site with selections on every page - coming in early Jan.

Suggestions for excerpts are welcome. I'm printing out your suggestions - anything ranging from 3 min to 20 minutes. They will be on demand, no logging in needed. (just let me know original show & describe story a bit)

thanks.

Bob Lee wrote:
Love Prisoner 
Thanks for the suggestion I love it.  Classic.  
 
p.s.
There are some seasonal selections Joe updated recently over on the JF site.
 
 
Bob Lee 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

"rightful spot back on the airways."

Wait a second. .  Joe worked at an airline?

Just kidding, I think you meant "airwaves"

Anyway, my recommendation for a show:
- Love Prisoner - just awesome.

- The second half of Mountain Rain - where Joe assembles a ragtag group to make an ascent up K2 with absolutely no preparation - hilarious and, I admit - if I ever get ridiculously rich, it's the first thing I'll do.

- Predator - Larry Block's monologue takes up about the first 32 minutes and is just incredible to listen to; and the second half, where Joe has several mini monologues and the music takes a more prominent role is an engrossing treatise on power. (the dynamic of power, not electrical wiring!)

Dave

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com> wrote:
First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 

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Manuel Cabrera Jr. | 26 Dec 2009 18:13
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Re: End of year thoughts about joe

I for one understood your intentions: I'm sure no one will take it too 
badly.

As for shows: lately, I've been really enjoying "The Story" from 
American Public Media and hosted by Dick Gordon, which has led me to the 
good old Studs Turkel stuff.  Maybe this is stuff you already know 
about, but the very idea of oral history as a genre of radio is 
relatively new to me.  I'd like to learn more about the genre - 
thankfully, there are thousands of hours of Turkel to delight anyone for 
years on end...

-Mandel

Bob Lee wrote:
> First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his 
> office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works 
> would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting 
> within minutes of the notice of offence.   
> It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow 
> with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and 
> his work for years to come.   
>  
> That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth 
> Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to 
> consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to 
> politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  
>
> Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are 
> just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, 
> somewhere out there.  
>  
> Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
>  
>  
> Bob Lee 
> http://blog.1amsoftware.com 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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ryancomperatore | 26 Dec 2009 18:14
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Dear friend:
What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test that.
Their Web address: www.sonyacn.com
Regards!

_______________________________________________
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http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
Bill Milosz | 26 Dec 2009 19:10
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Re: KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

I would like to hear Joe Frank back supported by some institution producing new material.  I'm sure that, given the state of his health, he wouldn't be interested in the grueling routine of producing an hour of original radio every week.  But perhaps he would be interested in doing a weekly mix of older material with new shows added in when he can make them.
 
The idea of a letter writing campaign to promote this would of course depend on HIS INTEREST in getting back to KCRW.
 
The success of such a campaign depends, in large part, on the current state of internal politics at KCRW. Anyone know any insiders there at KCRW who can give us a readout of the landscape over there?
 



 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com>
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 10:57 am
Subject: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 
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ryancomperatore | 26 Dec 2009 19:12
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Dear friend:
What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test that.
Their Web address: www.sonyacn.com
Regards!

_______________________________________________
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http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
mandy willingham | 27 Dec 2009 00:15
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Re: KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

I like your suggestion, but give how harshly he was treated by KCRW, would Joe even want to return to KRCW? What about a bi-weekly program on KPCC or KXLU?

To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:10:34 -0500
From: billmilosz <at> aol.com
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

I would like to hear Joe Frank back supported by some institution producing new material.  I'm sure that, given the state of his health, he wouldn't be interested in the grueling routine of producing an hour of original radio every week.  But perhaps he would be interested in doing a weekly mix of older material with new shows added in when he can make them.
 
The idea of a letter writing campaign to promote this would of course depend on HIS INTEREST in getting back to KCRW.
 
The success of such a campaign depends, in large part, on the current state of internal politics at KCRW. Anyone know any insiders there at KCRW who can give us a readout of the landscape over there?
 



 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com>
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 10:57 am
Subject: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 
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ryancomperatore | 27 Dec 2009 00:17
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Dear friend:
What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test that.
Their Web address: www.sonyacn.com
Regards!

_______________________________________________
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http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
Bill Milosz | 27 Dec 2009 10:43
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Fwd: KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

It takes a station with money to support stuff like Joe Frank.  KCRW is one of the most well financed public radio stations in the US, and is in the elite league of big money stations like WBEZ Chicago (biggest public radio operation in the US) and WBUR Boston.  I doubt KPCC or KXLU has anywhere near the money or reource-development staff to support Joe Frank.  A weekly hour long program like Joe's has got to cost around $200,000 a year or more.


-----Original Message-----
From: mandy willingham <willingh <at> hotmail.com>
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

#AOLMsgPart_3_854db618-4a09-4a4d-a5f9-948fb1985617 td{color: black;} #AOLMsgPart_3_854db618-4a09-4a4d-a5f9-948fb1985617 .hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px}#AOLMsgPart_3_854db618-4a09-4a4d-a5f9-948fb1985617 body.hmmessage{font-size: 10pt;font-family:Verdana} I like your suggestion, but give how harshly he was treated by KCRW, would Joe even want to return to KRCW? What about a bi-weekly program on KPCC or KXLU?

To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:10:34 -0500
From: billmilosz <at> aol.com
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

I would like to hear Joe Frank back supported by some institution producing new material.  I'm sure that, given the state of his health, he wouldn't be interested in the grueling routine of producing an hour of original radio every week.  But perhaps he would be interested in doing a weekly mix of older material with new shows added in when he can make them.
 
The idea of a letter writing campaign to promote this would of course depend on HIS INTEREST in getting back to KCRW.
 
The success of such a campaign depends, in large part, on the current state of internal politics at KCRW. Anyone know any insiders there at KCRW who can give us a readout of the landscape over there?
 



 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com>
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 10:57 am
Subject: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 
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Joe Frank | 27 Dec 2009 20:09
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Had to chime in --

While at KCRW Joe was paid a very (very) small fraction of this amount to produce new shows each week.
(He quite often personally paid actors / musicians, and more to produce the kind of work he wanted) 

Bill Milosz wrote:
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  A weekly hour long program like Joe's has got to cost around $200,000 a year or more.


-----Original Message-----
From: mandy willingham <willingh <at> hotmail.com>
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

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To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:10:34 -0500
From: billmilosz <at> aol.com
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

I would like to hear Joe Frank back supported by some institution producing new material.  I'm sure that, given the state of his health, he wouldn't be interested in the grueling routine of producing an hour of original radio every week.  But perhaps he would be interested in doing a weekly mix of older material with new shows added in when he can make them.
 
The idea of a letter writing campaign to promote this would of course depend on HIS INTEREST in getting back to KCRW.
 
The success of such a campaign depends, in large part, on the current state of internal politics at KCRW. Anyone know any insiders there at KCRW who can give us a readout of the landscape over there?
 



 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com>
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 10:57 am
Subject: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 
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ryancomperatore | 27 Dec 2009 20:11
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Dear friend:
What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test that.
Their Web address: www.sonyacn.com
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Bill Milosz | 27 Dec 2009 20:40
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Re: Fwd: KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

Yeah I'm sure that NOBODY made much money from the show. 
 
My guestimate of $200,000 includes paying a little to the producer (Joe), "guest artists" like Larry etc., engineers, production, distribution and a tiny bit of marketing.  MAYBE it could be done for less, it all depends how many people need to be paid and how much. People with professional-level skills, be they artistic or technical, need to be paid for their time. 
 
There is a LOT of work to be done to produce an hour of radio.  WAY more than most listeners realize.  And given his advanced age ( ha ha ha) Joe would need quite a bit of GOOD help producing and editing etc.   It's a matter of energy and time.  Without good staff, it would be too personally demanding and Joe would be well advised to avoid it, for health reasons.
 
There is a certain amount of "free" labor in Public Radio like interns and volunteers, but coordinating these types is a job in itself- and there tends to be a lot of turnover and burn out among volunteers and interns and they often need training etc. etc. so this "resource" has only a limited ability to help with production costs.


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Frank <Joe <at> joefrank.com>
To: Joe Frank Mailing List <joe-frank-list <at> armory.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 27, 2009 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Fwd: KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

Had to chime in --

While at KCRW Joe was paid a very (very) small fraction of this amount to produce new shows each week.
(He quite often personally paid actors / musicians, and more to produce the kind of work he wanted) 

Bill Milosz wrote:
(snip)
  A weekly hour long program like Joe's has got to cost around $200,000 a year or more.


-----Original Message-----
From: mandy willingham <willingh <at> hotmail.com>
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

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To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:10:34 -0500
From: billmilosz <at> aol.com
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] KCRW idea: End of year thoughts about joe

I would like to hear Joe Frank back supported by some institution producing new material.  I'm sure that, given the state of his health, he wouldn't be interested in the grueling routine of producing an hour of original radio every week.  But perhaps he would be interested in doing a weekly mix of older material with new shows added in when he can make them.
 
The idea of a letter writing campaign to promote this would of course depend on HIS INTEREST in getting back to KCRW.
 
The success of such a campaign depends, in large part, on the current state of internal politics at KCRW. Anyone know any insiders there at KCRW who can give us a readout of the landscape over there?
 



 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com>
To: joe-frank-list <at> armory.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 10:57 am
Subject: [joe-frank-list] End of year thoughts about joe

First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 
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Levent Ozgur | 28 Dec 2009 00:29
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Re: End of year thoughts about joe

The first half of Mountain Rain I've always found particularly moving.

On Dec 27, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Joe Frank <Joe <at> joefrank.com> wrote:

By the way ---
Look for the new web site with selections on every page - coming in early Jan.

Suggestions for excerpts are welcome. I'm printing out your suggestions - anything ranging from 3 min to 20 minutes. They will be on demand, no logging in needed. (just let me know original show & describe story a bit)

thanks.

Bob Lee wrote:
Love Prisoner 
Thanks for the suggestion I love it.  Classic.  
 
p.s.
There are some seasonal selections Joe updated recently over on the JF site.
 
 
Bob Lee 
 
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"rightful spot back on the airways."

Wait a second. .  Joe worked at an airline?

Just kidding, I think you meant "airwaves"

Anyway, my recommendation for a show:
- Love Prisoner - just awesome.

- The second half of Mountain Rain - where Joe assembles a ragtag group to make an ascent up K2 with absolutely no preparation - hilarious and, I admit - if I ever get ridiculously rich, it's the first thing I'll do.

- Predator - Larry Block's monologue takes up about the first 32 minutes and is just incredible to listen to; and the second half, where Joe has several mini monologues and the music takes a more prominent role is an engrossing treatise on power. (the dynamic of power, not electrical wiring!)

Dave

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Bob Lee <bobl <at> 1amsoftware.com> wrote:
First I think I need to apologize to Joe or whoever it was in his office who alerted me that my posting on my blog of one of Joes works would not be a good idea.  As everyone can see I removed the posting within minutes of the notice of offence.   
It has never been my idea to rip off Joe in anyway I only hope somehow with efforts from  a group such as this and other to promote Joe and his work for years to come.   
 
That being said, a comment was brought up over on Facebook about Ruth Seymour retiring, and someone thought it would be a good time to consider a litter writing campaign to the nice people over at KCRW to politely request Joe takes his rightful spot back on the airways.  

Anyone have a suggestion for a good show to listen to.   ?  there are just so many, and need a Joe fix.. someone got to have an idea, somewhere out there.  
 
Best wishes and happy thought to all for the new year.  
 
 
Bob Lee 

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ryancomperatore | 28 Dec 2009 00:30
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Dear friend:
What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test that.
Their Web address: www.sonyacn.com
Regards!

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