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John F. Sowa | 3 Jun 2010 14:12

Re: Call for papers

The New York Times has an editorial policy that every acronym must
be written in full at first use.  That is a good practice to follow
with sentences like the following:

 > We welcome papers that examine LSP in written and oral discourse
 > and genres from a wide variety of methodologies and theoretical
 > frameworks, including interdisciplinary research.

The pointer at the end goes to a file that has the full phrase,
Language for Specific Purposes, and cites a reference in 2006
as the source.  Perhaps the in-crowd might know that, but if they
want to attract people from different "theoretical frameworks,"
they might consider the NYT style.

Furthermore, the full announcement doesn't mention the older
term 'sublanguage', which has many more hits on Google,
including a Wikipedia article.  An even older term is
Wittgenstein's 'language games'.

By the way, the first hit on Google Scholar that relates
the acronym LSP to language is to a paper that talks about
Line Spectrum Pairs for speech analysis-synthesis.

John Sowa

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Dominic Widdows | 3 Jun 2010 14:25
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Re: Call for papers

I was looking forward to reading a whole issue on lexico-syntactic
patterns, myself! Nevermind.
-Dominic

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:12 AM, John F. Sowa <sowa <at> bestweb.net> wrote:
> The New York Times has an editorial policy that every acronym must
> be written in full at first use.  That is a good practice to follow
> with sentences like the following:
>
>> We welcome papers that examine LSP in written and oral discourse
>> and genres from a wide variety of methodologies and theoretical
>> frameworks, including interdisciplinary research.
>
> The pointer at the end goes to a file that has the full phrase,
> Language for Specific Purposes, and cites a reference in 2006
> as the source.  Perhaps the in-crowd might know that, but if they
> want to attract people from different "theoretical frameworks,"
> they might consider the NYT style.
>
> Furthermore, the full announcement doesn't mention the older
> term 'sublanguage', which has many more hits on Google,
> including a Wikipedia article.  An even older term is
> Wittgenstein's 'language games'.
>
> By the way, the first hit on Google Scholar that relates
> the acronym LSP to language is to a paper that talks about
> Line Spectrum Pairs for speech analysis-synthesis.
>
> John Sowa
>
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Khurshid Ahmad | 3 Jun 2010 18:03
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Dear List
Yes LSP is an acronym most linguist may not have been aware of; it was
unfortunate that the posters forgot to expand the acronym, which in itself
an object of study in LSP.

Language for Specific Purposes as a subject has a history that goes back
to the Vienna School and certainly predates the connotation by Zellig
Harris (sublanguage or slither of language as he called it).  The
prejorative technical and or scientific English is also used by folks who
are keen on  "what John said to Mary"; the Shorter OED has had scientific
language almost on a par with Slang.

European LSP afficanados have their two yearly conferences and I think we
have had our 15th last year.

It must have been particularly troublesome acronym for
computatonal/theoretical linguists who have comfort in acronyms like GB
theories, (X) HPSG, and other self explanatory acronyms.

> I was looking forward to reading a whole issue on lexico-syntactic
> patterns, myself! Nevermind.
> -Dominic
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:12 AM, John F. Sowa <sowa <at> bestweb.net> wrote:
>> The New York Times has an editorial policy that every acronym must
>> be written in full at first use.  That is a good practice to follow
>> with sentences like the following:
>>
>>> We welcome papers that examine LSP in written and oral discourse
>>> and genres from a wide variety of methodologies and theoretical
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Angus B. Grieve-Smith | 3 Jun 2010 14:40
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John F. Sowa wrote:
> The New York Times has an editorial policy that every acronym must
> be written in full at first use.  That is a good practice to follow
> with sentences like the following:
>
> > We welcome papers that examine LSP in written and oral discourse
> > and genres from a wide variety of methodologies and theoretical
> > frameworks, including interdisciplinary research.
    I agree wholeheartedly.  The worst is when the conference name or 
journal title is an abbreviation that is never spelled out!

    Please remember that not everyone comes from your area of 
specialization - but still may have something interesting to say to your 
conference.  I'm often frustrated after taking the time to figure out an 
abbreviation and then finding out that it's something completely 
unrelated to anything I do.  But I don't feel like I can ignore anything 
with an abbreviation I'm not familiar with, because there's still a 
chance it could be relevant.

    If you're forwarding a call that has an abbreviation at the 
beginning, I would appreciate if you could spell out the words for those 
who may not be familiar with them.

--

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				-Angus B. Grieve-Smith
				grvsmth <at> panix.com

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Trevor Jenkins | 3 Jun 2010 17:32

An Acronymical Corpus? was Re: Call for papers

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, John F. Sowa <sowa <at> bestweb.net> wrote:

This post and its follow-ups got me thinking about whether a corpus exists
of entire conversations conducted using acronyms. Readily visible in
text-speek/SMS of course but I was thinking of more real-world settings.

> The New York Times has an editorial policy that every acronym must
> be written in full at first use.  That is a good practice to follow
> with sentences like the following:
>
>  > We welcome papers that examine LSP in written and oral discourse
>  > and genres from a wide variety of methodologies and theoretical
>  > frameworks, including interdisciplinary research.
>
> The pointer at the end goes to a file that has the full phrase,
> Language for Specific Purposes, and cites a reference in 2006
> as the source.  Perhaps the in-crowd might know that, but if they
> want to attract people from different "theoretical frameworks,"
> they might consider the NYT style.
>
> Furthermore, the full announcement doesn't mention the older
> term 'sublanguage', which has many more hits on Google,
> including a Wikipedia article.  An even older term is
> Wittgenstein's 'language games'.
>
> By the way, the first hit on Google Scholar that relates
> the acronym LSP to language is to a paper that talks about
> Line Spectrum Pairs for speech analysis-synthesis.
>
> John Sowa
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Rob Malouf | 3 Jun 2010 17:51
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Re: An Acronymical Corpus? was Re: Call for papers

Well, there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIM1c9ksr5k

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Rob Malouf <rmalouf <at> mail.sdsu.edu>
Department of Linguistics and Asian/Middle Eastern Languages
San Diego State University

On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, John F. Sowa <sowa <at> bestweb.net> wrote:
> 
> This post and its follow-ups got me thinking about whether a corpus exists
> of entire conversations conducted using acronyms. Readily visible in
> text-speek/SMS of course but I was thinking of more real-world settings.
> 
>> The New York Times has an editorial policy that every acronym must
>> be written in full at first use.  That is a good practice to follow
>> with sentences like the following:
>> 
>>> We welcome papers that examine LSP in written and oral discourse
>>> and genres from a wide variety of methodologies and theoretical
>>> frameworks, including interdisciplinary research.
>> 
>> The pointer at the end goes to a file that has the full phrase,
>> Language for Specific Purposes, and cites a reference in 2006
>> as the source.  Perhaps the in-crowd might know that, but if they
>> want to attract people from different "theoretical frameworks,"
>> they might consider the NYT style.
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Thomas L. Packer | 3 Jun 2010 22:38

Re: An Acronymical Corpus? was Re: Call for papers

FYI, this could be offensive to some, as well as off-topic for this list.

Thomas L. Packer
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Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] An Acronymical Corpus? was Re: Call for papers

Well, there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIM1c9ksr5k

---
Rob Malouf <rmalouf <at> mail.sdsu.edu>
Department of Linguistics and Asian/Middle Eastern Languages
San Diego State University

On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, John F. Sowa <sowa <at> bestweb.net> wrote:
> 
> This post and its follow-ups got me thinking about whether a corpus exists
> of entire conversations conducted using acronyms. Readily visible in
> text-speek/SMS of course but I was thinking of more real-world settings.
>
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kirsten | 7 Jun 2010 13:55
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Hi!

I was wondering if there is any similar example in English language,  
as I am working on SMS language, and I could not find any acronyms in  
the corpus I am using, so it would be good to use other examples from  
other resources.

thank you very much in advance,
Úrsula

Rob Malouf <rmalouf <at> mail.sdsu.edu> escribiu:

> Well, there's this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIM1c9ksr5k
>
> ---
> Rob Malouf <rmalouf <at> mail.sdsu.edu>
> Department of Linguistics and Asian/Middle Eastern Languages
> San Diego State University
>
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, John F. Sowa <sowa <at> bestweb.net> wrote:
>>
>> This post and its follow-ups got me thinking about whether a corpus exists
>> of entire conversations conducted using acronyms. Readily visible in
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