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Kent Loobey | 29 Jul 2011 06:09
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White Space


IEEE wraps up standard for 22Mbps white space wireless 2 0
updated 11:35 am EDT, Wed July 27, 2011

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/07/27/super.wi.fi.delivers.longer.range.faster.data/

White spaces standards are here. Next up: devices!
By Kevin C. Tofel Jul. 27, 2011, 8:12am PT

http://gigaom.com/mobile/white-space-standard-pubbed-wifi-on-steroids/

TV White-Space Networks Get Smart
Bell Labs, Rice University test white-space network hardware
By SEEMA SINGH  /  JULY 2011

http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/wireless/tv-whitespace-networks-get-smart
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abrown | 29 Jul 2011 07:15

Re: White Space

I'm not looking forward to this.  There's no such thing as a free lunch.
This will increase the noise level on a broad range of existing bands.
So all other radio signaling will be degraded to make space for this
one standard.
-- 
Allen Brown  abrown at peak.org  http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/
  Entropy requires no maintenance. --- Bruce Sterling

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IEEE wraps up standard for 22Mbps white space wireless 2 0
updated 11:35 am EDT, Wed July 27, 2011

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/07/27/super.wi.fi.delivers.longer.range.faster.data/

White spaces standards are here. Next up: devices!
By Kevin C. Tofel Jul. 27, 2011, 8:12am PT

http://gigaom.com/mobile/white-space-standard-pubbed-wifi-on-steroids/

TV White-Space Networks Get Smart
Bell Labs, Rice University test white-space network hardware
By SEEMA SINGH  /  JULY 2011

http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/wireless/tv-whitespace-networks-get-smart
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Michael Miller | 29 Jul 2011 19:28
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Well it's already a issue due to unlicensed wireless MIC's using this
spectrum.  I've not the 802.22 standard yet. I don't think they set
any power limits in that spec.  That's the FCC's job and I've not seen
any power output specs yet.  I'm willing to guess it's going to have
the same power restrictions as the ISM band.  Added with the
additional GPS receiver so it can pull what channels are in use and go
to a unused channel.  I don't know if very many consumers will want to
get 802.22 equipment.  Just because of the higher regulations that you
are going to have to ad-hear to.  My reply to your "radio signal
degradation comment." is I don't think this is going to happen.  Like
I said before it's going to be highly regulated.  More so than normal
ISM equipment, and it's a waste of spectrum.  It's better that the
public will be able to use it vs the government selling it off to a
telco.  The up shot is you don't have to spend a lot of money on a
higher gain antenna.  You can use a off the shelf TV antenna.

--mmiller

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:15 PM,  <abrown <at> peak.org> wrote:
> I'm not looking forward to this.  There's no such thing as a free lunch.
> This will increase the noise level on a broad range of existing bands.
> So all other radio signaling will be degraded to make space for this
> one standard.
> --
> Allen Brown  abrown at peak.org  http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/
>  Entropy requires no maintenance. --- Bruce Sterling
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Loobey" <kent <at> uoregon.edu>
> To: euglug <at> euglug.org
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Alan | 29 Jul 2011 08:52

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On Thu, July 28, 2011 9:09 pm, Kent Loobey wrote:
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> TV White-Space Networks Get Smart
> Bell Labs, Rice University test white-space network hardware
> By SEEMA SINGH  /  JULY 2011
>

Hmm. This must be what the TV people have been bitching about in their
somewhat vague advertisements.

-ajb
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Michael Miller | 29 Jul 2011 19:30
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Re: White Space

Yes and if they have issue then they can report it to the FCC.  Just
remember if the FCC knocks on  your door.  They don't need a warrant
to enter your house.  If you refuse you could be fined a large amount
of money.

--mmiller

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Alan <euglug <at> thebucks.net> wrote:
> On Thu, July 28, 2011 9:09 pm, Kent Loobey wrote:
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>>
>> TV White-Space Networks Get Smart
>> Bell Labs, Rice University test white-space network hardware
>> By SEEMA SINGH  /  JULY 2011
>>
>
> Hmm. This must be what the TV people have been bitching about in their
> somewhat vague advertisements.
>
> -ajb
>
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